[00:00:00] Speaker: You
[00:00:05] Rocky Rhoads: know, you guys are like the modernized Waltons. What’s, what’s the Waltons? Oh, like the old, the old show? Yeah, the old show. Rocky makes up
[00:00:14] Speaker 3: his own show.
[00:00:14] Rocky Rhoads: Yes, I make up my own stuff. My own words. That’s
[00:00:18] Speaker 3: okay.
[00:00:20] Rocky Rhoads: I like them all. Do you remember the old TV shows?
[00:00:22] Cameron Watson: Yes, I do. I used to watch TV. I
mean, I was a TV addict.
I, I, my goal in life was to get
home as quickly as possible so I could start watching the TV. And I knew what shows came on. And I can’t believe that’s a word. All the theme shows, the theme songs memorized. Oh
[00:00:38] Rocky Rhoads: yeah. And I watched a ton of TV. So if you look back in history. TV shows were made for us to learn things.
Okay. You take the Waltons, you take Little House on a Prairie, you take any of those older shows, it makes you learn things. Oh,
[00:00:55] Cameron Watson: okay.
[00:00:56] Rocky Rhoads: So, but now you look at the TV shows today, you don’t learn anything. Okay. But if, if you look at the old shows, okay, for example, for example, you look at Little House on a Prairie.
Yes. Okay. When Laura’s dog passed away, you know, her dad came down and talked to her about how, Hey, this is unfortunately, this is what happens, you know, or, uh, stealing piece of candy from the store or whatever. Or Albert getting addicted
[00:01:28] Cameron Watson: to drugs and then having to go through withdrawals. That was That was traumatic.
Right? That was traumatic. I didn’t ever want to touch drugs after that show. Right.
[00:01:35] Sara Watson: And when Nellie found someone To marry?
[00:01:39] Rocky Rhoads: Oh my gosh, that was a miracle. That
[00:01:41] Speaker 5: was a miracle, and it shows that everybody can find a person.
[00:01:45] Rocky Rhoads: There you go. Yeah, and so, see? What? Did you say it’s not true?
[00:01:51] Jenny Rhoads: No, did you say not true?
No, I said
[00:01:53] Cameron Watson: isn’t that true? Yeah, everybody can find somebody. So, even if it’s, uh, Nellie Olsen. Yeah.
[00:02:01] Rocky Rhoads: But, but then you look at the shows today. Oh, I have two dads or I’ve got three moms or about the, you know, the divorce families or the Kardashians. What do we learn from those kinds of TV shows and what we used to learn from the old TV shows?
So I think,
[00:02:18] Cameron Watson: uh, somebody might push back and say that TV is just a reflection of society. And if you look at, let’s take comic books as an example, uh, what was needed most when Superman came around? When, oh, they needed that hero. They needed a hero. Yeah. And then, um, because of that, uh, those who were in charge of the arts thought that what was needed.
Mm-hmm . Was an awareness of people who never got any attention. And it, and it swung, I mean, the pendulum, like, um, I was exposed to, uh, we had in my high school, um, a, uh. Gay, lesbian, uh, speaker came in and explained what it meant to be gay and lesbian. That was in 1993. Oh, wow. So, it was a while ago, but it caused a big uproar,
[00:03:13] Rocky Rhoads: right?
[00:03:14] Cameron Watson: But, the reason it was a big uproar was is that the parents weren’t given an opportunity to say, Yeah, I do want my kids to be exposed to that. No, I don’t. It had never occurred to me that somebody could. to the same sex because I was attracted to the opposite sex. But so those in charge of the arts, what did they think media, what they think society needed?
I think they believed they needed an awareness of the diversity because everything up until then was wholesome. Leave it to beaver, you know, uh, Don, uh, man, Patty Duke, that’s hilarious. Um, Donna Reed, uh, shows. We had really wholesome Then in the evening we had the variety shows that were kind of risque.
Oh, yes, yes. But the kids were in bed. Right. And it was for the parents. It was for the parents. So, I think you still had the mix, but the, the feeling of, uh, those who were trying to push this is that it was needed. I don’t think they were trying to, you know, some people attribute evil intentions, and I think there are people who are evil, but I don’t think they think they’re evil.
Right. I think they’re just trying to do what they think would be best for them and everybody
[00:04:30] Rocky Rhoads: else. Right, and then we gotta think about the cultures of the eras of the years of what was set towards the TV shows. Sure. So, you think about, okay, Back in the days of people coming back from Vietnam, you know, the, the 60s, the 70s to the 80s of what shows were actually going on, you know, there were humor because we needed humor where, you know,
[00:04:54] Cameron Watson: situational comedies became bread and butter.
Yeah.
[00:04:58] Rocky Rhoads: So what
[00:04:58] Cameron Watson: were
[00:04:59] Rocky Rhoads: the shows that you enjoyed most? I would say I was more into like chips, you know, everyone like chips, you know, haunch and john, you know, sunny california on their bikes. Um, then there was another one called rescue. And what was so amazing about that is they always called You know, when they, when they got the patients and they’re working on people, they have this phone that was in this box and they had to call, you know, and they had to call the doctor.
And I’m thinking there is such a thing that you can pick up a box and call, you know, as a kid, you’re all like, I didn’t know there was a phone that you can do that, you know? And so I always enjoyed those shows that you can learn something from, uh, and of course, you know, in the, the later seventies, you know, you, you watch, uh, the, uh, What was it?
The, uh, million dollar man. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Of course. Duke’s a hazard.
[00:05:57] Cameron Watson: Oh yeah.
[00:05:57] Rocky Rhoads: You
[00:05:58] Cameron Watson: know, but of course you can’t mention them nowadays. No, because No, the what, what’s the, the car, what was the car called? General Lead. The General Lead, yeah.
[00:06:07] Rocky Rhoads: Yep.
[00:06:07] Cameron Watson: That,
[00:06:08] Rocky Rhoads: that, and had, had a symbol on top. Yes. That I don’t know.
We can discuss, but Sure. You know. Well, so let’s,
[00:06:15] Cameron Watson: let’s do, discuss it. Yes. Because for some that’s a symbol of heritage. It is. And for some it’s a symbol of slavery. Yes. And the desire to go back to slavery, and I think that’s the thing.
[00:06:27] Rocky Rhoads: Well, so that, the symbol of that flag actually represents a part of culture and a part of the South.
Yeah. Because I lived in the South for a short time. And so, way back when, when the countries were still divided in certain areas, that was their flag to represent, hey, this is us. And for us, or the American flag actually only had the 13 stars for the 13 colonies, right? And so each actually state, as we all know, we have our own flag.
So that’s what some of the parts of the South have is that flag. And that’s what represented them. Didn’t it also
[00:07:07] Cameron Watson: represent the Confederate? Oh yeah, Confederate Army. And so when they were fighting against the North, Which the Civil War turned into a fight over slavery. It didn’t start that way. But, uh, Abraham Lincoln finally said, Okay, God, let me, uh, I’ll do what’s right.
Let me help lead this and we’ll do it. So then, that, when it shifted into, um, from the South’s perspective, Hey, we want the freedom to, we are a federation, we get to choose for ourselves, and then the North saying, no, there are certain things that our federation doesn’t allow, that all focused around slavery.
So that symbol is closely tied to slavery from the North’s perspective. I wonder how many people who like that flag.
[00:08:02] Rocky Rhoads: Actually think about slavery at all. I don’t think, I don’t think so. I don’t think they look at that flag and think of slavery at all. Do they think of, oh let’s
[00:08:11] Cameron Watson: keep things separate, uh, from like a federalist perspective?
Like my state has the right to choose its own things? Or is that not a thing
[00:08:20] Rocky Rhoads: too?
[00:08:21] Cameron Watson: We all
[00:08:22] Rocky Rhoads: have the right to choose. Yeah. We all have, we all have the right. Um, now if I show you, a piece of material or something, does that piece of material give you some kind of weird vibe that maybe I shouldn’t think of this way, or should I think of it something, something different?
If I give you a pencil and you spell something wrong, is it the pencil’s fault? No, it’s my fault. It’s your fault. So, same thing with the flag. It’s not the flag’s fault that some bad people represented that flag with, you know, slavery. Now, there was other things that were going on. I’m not, A history buff whatsoever, but I do remember a little bit of things.
Uh, a lot of it was to do with cotton. Okay, you know, where are we getting our cotton back in those days? It was the south. Uh, People were empowered by this. Sure a
[00:09:15] Cameron Watson: lot of money a lot of money made when you don’t have to pay Right for hired help and you just enslave them,
[00:09:21] Rocky Rhoads: right? And so and now The cotton trade was very incredible.
So you think cotton trade, sugar, all these materials came from the
[00:09:32] Cameron Watson: South.
[00:09:33] Rocky Rhoads: Um, and so a lot of that started, Hey, why they get this and people work for free. It was this, uh, chaos mess. And so I don’t think that flag should be representative as slavery. Okay. It is to me, it is a, is a symbol of the South. Uh, this is what they believed in.
Um, was slavery bad? Of course. Is slavery bad today? Of course. You know, and so actually, I have a picture of my mother back in the late 30s, early 40s picking cotton in Bakersfield, California. Oh, that’s cool. Yeah. So, you know, it’s, um, and I, it does irritate me when people bring up that history of, just not America, but as You know, there’s so much things that go on, but oh, slavery, it’s happening today.
It still happens right now as we’re talking. Yeah. In fact,
[00:10:30] Cameron Watson: what we’re seeing right now taking place is, uh, is We are, so it’s January, no, it’s February. It’s the first part of February right now.
[00:10:40] Speaker: Right.
[00:10:40] Cameron Watson: And President Trunk, Trunk. That’s awesome. President Trunk car. Trump. Trump. There you go. I trumped you, sorry.
You did. Which is fun, because now when we play Pinochle, we say our president’s name again. Nice. All right. So you have President Trump and his doge, uh, crew, and the doge crew is operating under the Authority that Barack Obama set up to fix the healthcare website. I don’t think most people realize that.
That was kind of a How did he empower them so quickly? Well, he just took what was already there, injected his own people into it, and then they went and did. But we are discovering that So much time and money of the U. S. was spent on things that would then be turned around and used for evil purposes. And one thing that’s being held up right now is the um, what is his name?
They’re trying to block him and he wants to release the Epstein list. The list of those who flew. To the private island where slavery, sex slavery was going on. That’s a, yeah. And that, and then if you, uh, did you watch The Sound of Freedom? Yes. Have you seen that movie? Yeah. That, there is slavery going on today.
And so, slavery is evil. Yeah. So, those who are making it possible for slavery are evil. Yeah. Those who have a symbol, for some, it represents slavery, and I can see why they would think that those people are evil, because they think the flag represents slavery. For me, the flag represents the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard.
Right. Where, and I just want to run and jump over the hood of a car and slide. Slide, right, yes, yeah. And if, by the way. Because you’re a good old boy. That’s right. Never up to no good.
[00:12:35] Speaker 3: Yeah,
[00:12:36] Cameron Watson: yeah. But the problem with the sliding across is if you had Levi’s with the rivets, it did. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, yeah.
[00:12:45] Rocky Rhoads: Do you remember the song?
Yeah,
[00:12:47] Cameron Watson: I think I could probably
[00:12:49] Rocky Rhoads: get it down. Just the good old boys. Yep. Never meaning no harm. Yeah. Good
[00:12:54] Cameron Watson: job.
[00:12:54] Rocky Rhoads: Do you know the, I mean, I can, I can hum it. You’re right. Yeah. But, uh, and what was so neat about going back to watching those shows and, uh, and kind of get the slavery to, I remember when Roots came out on TV.
Good to, good to get that. Now that it, uh, that was a big movement back in those days because you learn a little bit of it in school. Yes. They touch on it, but they can’t go into detail. I like, I like how you said that they touch on it, but didn’t go into detail because there was so much, you know, but anyways, when I sat there and I was young and I watched that, I was like, Oh wow, that, that happened here.
You know, that really happened. Right. You know, and so, and reflecting on some of those old TV shows, um, and some of the history, even as the Americans, uh, as us as Americans, um, And then some of the TV shows that were coming up, you know, I, I loved watching, I think one of the best shows that I used to love watching was the Jeffersons.
Oh really? Moving on up. Moving on up. To the east side. Yeah. To a deluxe apartment in the sky. In the sky. Yeah. And I loved watching the Jeffersons. I don’t know why. But um. Then, after watching that, I loved watching, and I’m trying to remember, there was, uh, another show, and there was, uh, Rerun, there was, uh, uh, Roger, Roger was a tall, skinny kid, and, uh, there was, it was just a bunch of young guys hanging out at a, at a pub, or at a, uh, like a, Was it good times?
Good times. Okay. So, yeah.
[00:14:48] Speaker: I
[00:14:50] Rocky Rhoads: So, I mean, all of those good TV shows. Yeah. My wife said happy days. I don’t know how that came about. That’s a good one. That’s a good one.
[00:14:57] Speaker 5: I remember that one.
[00:14:58] Rocky Rhoads: You remember
[00:14:59] Cameron Watson: happy days? Sunday, Monday, happy day, Tuesday, Wednesday, happy day, Thursday, Friday, happy
[00:15:05] Speaker 3: day. But you know, it’s, it’s, it’s
[00:15:09] Rocky Rhoads: weird how we’re talking about all these TV shows that actually taught certain values, but then you, um, now social media today.
What’s it teach in our youth? Well, so
[00:15:22] Cameron Watson: that, I’m glad you brought that up because for me, it teaches me how to build a, uh, frame, a post frame Barnum Minium. Yes. Our, our, uh, uh, the RR channel guys, man, man, that’s awesome. His name’s Kyle and he builds buildings. I watch him do it as if I’m going to ever do it.
Right. But so it, I think it depends. Yeah. That’s where you put your focus because in the same way that that flag could mean slavery to one, independence and culture to another, uh, which I think is interesting. Independence and slavery, what, what, those are opposites and yet someone with the culture of the South and the federalistic perspective saying we get to choose how we behave and how we act.
And then the others are slavery, which is to take away people’s ability to choose and freedom to act. So, if we look at, uh, social media today, it depends on what social media you’re consuming and who you follow. My kids love, uh, Mark
Mark
[00:16:30] Sara Watson: Rober.
[00:16:32] Cameron Watson: And, I don’t know,
have you ever seen his stuff?
[00:16:34] Sara Watson: And Dude Perfect.
[00:16:35] Rocky Rhoads: Oh, Dude, the Dude Perfects. Now, I love, it’s clean, it’s Christian based. Uh, they, they do, I’ve heard rumors that they enjoy, uh, talking to youth, you know, and so, uh, But,
[00:16:50] Sara Watson: but, but, and Jenny will like this. They, my, it, it spurred a conversation about eating meat, and Matthew was like, Talking about how we needed to eat less meat and he was beginning, he was going to become a vegetarian.
And I was like.
[00:17:07] Rocky Rhoads: Don’t do that.
[00:17:08] Sara Watson: Why? Why are you talking about this? And he said, well, I learned about it on Dude Perfect. And I was like, Oh. So we, so we took it as an opportunity to have that conversation and to read scripture and, but,
[00:17:23] Cameron Watson: and let him choose.
[00:17:25] Sara Watson: Yeah.
[00:17:26] Cameron Watson: Cause. Yeah. As I have always said, the less meat the vegetarians eat, the more I can consume.
I like that. That’s a good idea. I
[00:17:36] Sara Watson: don’t think there’s anything wrong with being vegetarian.
[00:17:39] Jenny Rhoads: And vegetarians can make cheap dates.
[00:17:41] Sara Watson: But they definitely have an agenda. Place. Wow.
[00:17:47] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah. Yeah. You’re going to pay a lot for that carrot because it was grown in This kind of mulch and this kind of dirt and this kind of earth and they heard their worms Yes.
Oh, yeah
Eat your carrots silly Silly rabbit. Okay.
[00:18:05] Cameron Watson: So what we were talking about is choice and where you choose to look look and spend your time and What were you what was your take on? Because I mentioned the two that I like
[00:18:20] Rocky Rhoads: so It is so neat these days because I was thinking, Hey, I got to work on my car, but there’s stuff that you don’t know about.
Right. So it is so neat that these days we could, Hey, I’m going to look up how to work on this. Uh huh. Now we are given this technology for good. Yeah. Now it’s a freedom of choice. If you choose to do bad.
[00:18:46] Cameron Watson: Right.
[00:18:46] Rocky Rhoads: So there’s that free agency again. Yes. You know, so. Now, we’re not with our kids all the time. We wish that we were.
What? I know. Right?
[00:18:56] Cameron Watson: Yeah. It’s kind of nice right now. We’re not with our kids. Yeah. So we, sorry, kids, we love you.
[00:19:03] Rocky Rhoads: Um, put a chip in their neck and, you know, um, but it is,
[00:19:08] Cameron Watson: is it on their hip? Oh, it’s gone. Their hip. Yeah. Because the phone has the chip in it. Oh, there you go. Yeah. They’re glued to their
[00:19:16] Rocky Rhoads: right.
And so. But we learn all this, you know, as kids we were watching these Buck Rogers, for example. Oh, Buck Rogers. Yeah.
[00:19:25] Speaker: Yeah.
[00:19:26] Rocky Rhoads: Uh, all this technology as a kid we didn’t have, but now we have it. So now as parents, me and you, we’re exploring like, oh my gosh, I can get so much out of this. Yeah. But we have to use our agency.
We have to be careful what we look up on and all this other There is a lot of good and bad to be seen. And so, I mean, even right now we’re using technology. Yeah. Everything that we do in our life is technology. I mean, technology has come so far, so advanced. I mean, um, there’s different things, this not as in us as in cameras and computers, but in technology of, you know, hospitals, um, schools, and so forth like that.
You know, it’s crazy what’s out there. Yeah. So, I mean, now we’re even driving electric cars. I mean, they’re not hovering back to the future. You want that hoverboard.
[00:20:21] Cameron Watson: In fact, you know what? Technology as a whole, the biggest disappointment to me from when I was a little kid growing up, popular mechanics, popular science.
I used to read those and look through those magazines all the time. We were always just a few years away from the flying car. Yes, and it went right there. Every time you’d see like a new version and it’s like, well that’s more like a plane that drives on the highway, but I’ll take it. Right, right. You know, and then as an adult, Elon Musk, when he started talking about flying cars, all of a sudden this little thing went off and I was like, oh, we’re never going to do flying cars.
Because it’s too expensive. Anxiety building to have something going above you in the air that, you know, Joe and his, like the Jetsons. Yes. Like the Jetsons when you’re beneath it, where his plan to go, Hey, instead of going 3d space up, let’s go 3d space down. Right. And then, uh, when something goes wrong, it doesn’t go horribly wrong.
[00:21:20] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah. So, I mean, you have been looking at advancements of so much that’s going on. What’s your favorite so far? Oh gosh. So I did see something the other day that really, it actually hit home. Not well, it, it made me very emotional and what it is, it’s robotics and it’s for someone that’s in a wheelchair that can’t walk.
And so of course, you know, we watch all these movies with Ironman and all this, and that’s what it reminds me of. And there’s this young man in a wheelchair that can’t walk and it’s a skeletized. Unit that actually comes to him and it clamps around him. Okay, and he can actually stand out of his wheelchair and Walk Wow, and I thought that was so amazing because Back in the 70s, you’d see stuff like that on TV Yeah, but
[00:22:13] Cameron Watson: you everyone out and you catch the cables that were coming, right?
Yes,
[00:22:17] Rocky Rhoads: or the starship with with the string But but seeing that Was amazing I mean, like, wow, it’s, it’s finally happening. You know, the technology’s there. And so, um, it’s just really cool and really neat how, but we gotta use our technology smart. Yeah. And wise. Which is your least favorite technology? Oh, that’s a good question.
Man, I don’t know. I would say, oh, I don’t know.
[00:22:49] Cameron Watson: Well, while you think, I’m going to tell you one of my newest favorite technologies. Now, I haven’t talked about this on a podcast yet, but, um, I love heat pumps. Okay. Heat pumps. Heat pumps are one of the coolest technologies out there. Yeah. Now, that’s a weird thing to say because you’re like, air conditioning and refrigeration?
Yes.
Yeah.
But one of the coolest technologies that went into the Tesla vehicles was the octagon heat pump. Yeah. Because it. Uh, if you’re going to heat your electric car, you better just pull heat from the surrounding area, concentrate it and put it into the cabin as opposed to just using the batteries to generate heat.
Well now the coolest thing is these washer and dryer combos. They’re called ventless, uh, dryer washer combos and they are one device and you put your laundry in, you start the wash and then when the wash is done, it does the drying and you don’t need a dryer. And you don’t need a two 40 plug because it’s so efficient.
It takes the energy from your laundry room or wherever you have it. It pulls it in. Uh, it absorbs the heat from the surrounding area, concentrates it, dries the clothes, picks up all the moisture, dehumidifies the air, and then puts that back into the room. So you have a, just a little bit of heat gain, minuscule heat gain in the room.
But, uh, normally what you’re doing is you’re taking the dryer, uh, you suck the air in, you heat it, you put it over the clothes, absorb the moisture, take that hot moisture air and stick it outside so that then you pull air from the outside back into your house, into that room and you have to condition that air again.
So you have to heat it and you have to cool it. So it’s amazing. This thing does it all in one. And I am stoked about it. I think it’s the way of the future. I think everyone’s going to have one. And then, you know, it wouldn’t surprise me if everybody went to these, um, heat pump dryers and then go ventless so that it, your, the economy, uh, aspect of it is, you know, pretty quick return
[00:25:02] Rocky Rhoads: on your
[00:25:02] Cameron Watson: investment
[00:25:03] Rocky Rhoads: there as a funny part of that.
Kind of reminds me of a kid. It sucks all the power out of you. It sucks all the energy. There you go. But, you know. And once again, we look back as we’re youth and kids thinking about the old TV shows again. I love old TV shows. I talk about old TV shows all day long. But, um, you always think of like, the technology, or what we seen back then is what’s coming out now.
You know, uh, the electric cars, the, uh, you know, uh, there’s cars now that, uh, You don’t even have to, you just sit there and it drives. And I think that’s one of the ones that scare me the most, really. The technology. You don’t even have to put your hands on the steering wheel. Ah, I love that because I love the idea, Hey, I’m in control.
Yeah. I can make the decisions if I want to go this way or that way. And so a friend of mine was telling me, uh, they were driving in, in a newer car,
[00:25:57] Speaker: Uhhuh .
[00:25:58] Rocky Rhoads: And he says, there’s something wrong with this car. And he was telling me a story about it, and he says, it won’t let me. Make a lane change because it resists it resists and so then it says car near you car near you you know and so yeah I don’t know too I’m not too keen on it yet so
[00:26:18] Cameron Watson: I embrace it fully as soon as I don’t have to drive myself I’m all in right I am so excited about it and I trust it far more That I trust myself or others, right?
And you know, I, the analogy I loved about it is how, when you go to the shopping center now, you don’t have to push the doors open. They slide off for you. Would you rather go back and replace it with some guy who’s watching you come and have him, Right, right. I don’t because he’s going to miss a little bit, but when I was a kid, And they were pressure sensitive.
I had fun trying to figure out how, so you could just stand and without it opening. And then when they switched to the radar one, I would move as slow as I could and see how close I could get to the door. So if you can imagine a big, tall, goofy teenager standing about two inches away from the door, smiling really big.
Cause I got so close, so slow. Yeah. The doors never open. Okay. I celebrated it. I know
[00:27:22] Rocky Rhoads: exactly what you’re talking about, because for me. I was a, a nerd, you know, I still, yeah, a Star Wars nerd. And so I thought I’d use my Jedi powers to open the door. Nice. You know, yeah. You know, so it opens up.
[00:27:39] Cameron Watson: Yeah. The biggest disappointment as I was trying to walk so slow is other patrons because they would come in and out and didn’t they know
[00:27:47] Speaker 3: I
[00:27:48] Cameron Watson: was on a mission.
You were on a mission. They were so inconsiderate. Yeah. And. You know looking back, I wonder if I became dinner table conversation Did you see
[00:28:01] Rocky Rhoads: that kid yeah, man, they just let Howard I think that was one of those One kids. Yeah. Yeah. Well, where was your parents at exactly? Let me ask you this Do you did you always have a TV in your home when you were little or did you guys get one?
[00:28:18] Cameron Watson: So we, I grew up, I don’t have a recollection of not having a TV. I have a recollection of my mom getting rid of the TV. Really? Yeah. So she, she was concerned. So I told you my goal in life was to consume as much TV as possible. Yes. Yeah. So she was a good mom.
[00:28:38] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah. Yeah. Cuts the cord. Cuts the cord. Yeah. So I remember when we went and got our first colored TV.
Oh, nice. And, uh, and it had a remote, like a clicker remote, like a clicker remote. So I wasn’t the remote anymore. Oh, that’s cool. Did you ever have to do that? Did you ever have to go up and turn the chip all, you know, turn the channel, you know, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I got to get up and turn the channel again.
You know, cause I was the remote, you know? And so finally we bought a TV that had its own remote and it was the neatest thing ever. And. It was in color, and Dad had to hook up to the antenna, you know, because what was cable, we didn’t, you know. Cable. Cable, that sounds suspicious. And so, I remember just flipping through channels, you know, and I remember my Dad just like, Don’t you ever lose this remote, you know.
And so, yeah, that was the coolest thing ever, I remember.
[00:29:39] Cameron Watson: I, uh, remember the first remote I saw for a TV was at my Granddad’s house. And we went to the farm, and he had a console TV. Oh, yes. Right? Just this piece of beautiful furniture, with a TV stuck right in the middle. And he had the clicker. And, uh, I couldn’t figure out as a little kid how he was getting it to change the channel.
Cause, you know, it, it would just change.
Cause it was magical. Yeah, it was. And there was a definite click, but I was never allowed to change the channel. Don’t you touch it. I wasn’t allowed to even handle it,
[00:30:15] Speaker 3: so.
[00:30:16] Cameron Watson: But yeah, so I remember the remote. Uh, the first TV that we had that had a remote was in Texas. But the remote was. It was connected with a cable and it was about yay big and it was white with a clear, um, a little piece of plastic that was clear and came out and hooked over and pointed to the numbers that was along the whole thing.
And as you would shift it over, it had a light inside of the case and the little clear piece of plastic would have a little bit of light come out and point to the numbers. Yeah. The number that you were on. And to change the channel, you would slide it. Slide it. And it was connected to the TV, but it was a long cable, so it was remote.
Right.
[00:31:00] Rocky Rhoads: It was remote. That was remote. I remember we getting our first, um, microwave. Oh.
[00:31:09] Cameron Watson: My, I think my Uncle David gave us our first microwave. No, he gave us our first, it was my granddad, gave us, we had an early microwave. My grandpa was a lot like me, or I’m a lot like him. Um, and he was into technology and he gave us a microwave and for the longest time, it made my mom nervous.
It was like, don’t stand too close, you know, turn it on and back away as, you know, cause it was new and nobody had one, but, oh boy, did we, we love that thing. And it, um, I remember it so clearly cause you would turn it, you would turn the dial and the physical dial, you would turn it to indicate that it’s on.
was still had time left. It was colored on one side of that dial. So as you turned it, the orange strip would grow and then as the timer went off, the orange strip would disappear. Yeah. Yep. That was incredible. I, are you guys laughing at me?
[00:32:07] Speaker 5: No, we think it was just, you bring me back memories.
[00:32:09] Cameron Watson: What microwaves do you guys know about?
[00:32:12] Jenny Rhoads: I just remember something similar.
[00:32:14] Sara Watson: Yeah, I remember those kinds of microwaves. Actually the, I think, The microwave we had, the house I grew up in, was the microwave that we had for like the previous ten years. So it was like old.
[00:32:30] Cameron Watson: American made.
[00:32:32] Sara Watson: Yeah, and we had it forever.
[00:32:33] Cameron Watson: Massive and heavy. Yes.
[00:32:36] Speaker 5: So. Yep.
[00:32:37] Cameron Watson: That’s cool.
[00:32:38] Sara Watson: It warmed up a cat who froze in Iowa.
[00:32:41] Rocky Rhoads: You put a, what, wait a minute, you put a cat in the microwave?
[00:32:43] Sara Watson: My brother did.
[00:32:45] Cameron Watson: Oh, that is so horrible.
[00:32:47] Sara Watson: Matthew, the cat was stuck.
[00:32:48] Cameron Watson: Was the cat dead?
[00:32:49] Sara Watson: Yeah, the cat was dead.
[00:32:51] Cameron Watson: And so then he heated the cat in the microwave. So he started cooking a frozen cat.
[00:32:57] Sara Watson: He thought it might bring him back to life.
[00:32:59] Rocky Rhoads: That might be,
[00:33:01] Cameron Watson: well that’s probably because of the TV show, The Incredible Hulk. Yes, I mean, the gamma rays. The gamma rays. Yeah. And
[00:33:07] Rocky Rhoads: so And he was thinking that he could save the cat. That’s right. Yeah. So good for him.
[00:33:13] Cameron Watson: And maybe make a super strong cat.
[00:33:15] Rocky Rhoads: Yes.
[00:33:16] Cameron Watson: So do you want to watch The Incredible Hulk?
[00:33:19] Rocky Rhoads: Oh yes.
[00:33:20] Cameron Watson: What was Bannon’s first name?
[00:33:21] Sara Watson: After the cat.
[00:33:22] Rocky Rhoads: Ben, I think. Okay. It was Ben.
[00:33:25] Cameron Watson: Yeah. I think halfway through the show, I don’t know if that’s true.
[00:33:29] Rocky Rhoads: I don’t, I don’t know.
[00:33:30] Cameron Watson: But it became David.
[00:33:32] Rocky Rhoads: That’s right.
[00:33:32] Cameron Watson: But it wasn’t initially. I don’t think.
[00:33:36] Rocky Rhoads: I don’t.
Yeah. So. David Banner. David Banner? That’s what I remember. Do you guys remember?
David Banner? I don’t know. Did you ever watch TV?
[00:33:47] Jenny Rhoads: I watched Pippi Longstocking. Oh, Pippi Longstocking. Of course, watch.
[00:33:52] Rocky Rhoads: Now, I think that was, that wasn’t American, was it? Oh, I think it was. Do you think it was? It was a Disney product. Oh, Disney. Pippi Longstocking?
[00:34:00] Cameron Watson: Yeah, don’t get me started on Disney. Oh, don’t get me going on Disney.
So how long have you not been a fan of Disney? We’ll, we’ll go there and we won’t go into details.
[00:34:10] Rocky Rhoads: So, as, I would say, that’s a good question. I would say at least four or five years.
[00:34:18] Cameron Watson: Okay. See for me, decades. Decades. I’ve despised the Disney storyline. I’m a big fan of Jane Austen books because you know, no matter how hard things are, It’s gonna end the way it ought to.
And with Disney shows, uh, I remember there was a movie, and this might be a false memory, but it was I remember watching the movie, The Bear, and it was a live, it was a live action one, and I was like, you know, at least in this one, the parents aren’t gonna die and then the mom dies! I was like, it’s a rub now.
I’m done. I’m not gonna embrace Disney. And the, there was one movie of Disney that I enjoyed. And that was Aladdin. And it was because of Robin Williams did such an amazing job. That was a very enjoyable movie. Hated Lion King. Everyone was like, the circle of life. I hated Lion King. Yeah, he just killed his brother.
Yeah. I don’t like this. Yeah, right. So, I just, you know, sensitive kid. Hated all the Disney movies except for
[00:35:24] Rocky Rhoads: Aladdin. So, there is some darkness that, It’s an aspiracy theory, if you want to call it that, but there are stories way back when, like when some of the books first came out from, you know, the twenties, the thirties, the forties, like Pinocchio.
Well,
[00:35:41] Cameron Watson: so you’re talking about the fairy tale? The fairy tales. So those were, uh, written before Walt Disney. He got a hold of them. Yeah. And he animated them. He animated them. And he made them, like Nice. Compared to the books. Yeah, to
[00:35:55] Rocky Rhoads: the books. I mean, some of those were
[00:35:57] Cameron Watson: terrifying. Yes, they were.
[00:35:58] Rocky Rhoads: You know, and so, like, beyond all that, so, like, my wife, she loves to watch these shows that everything’s okay.
Yeah. In this, in this world of make believe. Okay, I’m with her so far. Yeah, and so, uh, it snows on sunny days. And the flowers still pop up
[00:36:20] Cameron Watson: nice
[00:36:21] Rocky Rhoads: and everyone’s happy. Perfect. You know, and I’m like, that’s not the real world.
[00:36:27] Cameron Watson: Yes. And that’s why I watch them. Yes.
[00:36:29] Rocky Rhoads: And I sit there and she’ll, you want to watch this with me?
I’m like, what are we watching? And she’ll tell me. And I’m like, no, cause maybe I don’t want the world to be okay.
[00:36:42] Cameron Watson: Okay. So I’m well, okay. So there’s some, there’s some power to have an escape from the real world. Yes, there’s, but there’s also some really neat things that you can learn from things that have elements of the real world in them.
And yeah, that’s kind of what you were talking about before the, the shows that you used to watch when you were growing up versus the shows available today.
[00:37:02] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah. I’d rather watch blackout down. Okay. Or, you know, watch this story of, you know, she lost her boyfriend, but he comes back because the horses, you know, all this other stuff.
It’s Oh man, don’t get me started on horse movies.
[00:37:16] Cameron Watson: So, Disney and horse movies are my favorite. Spirit. Is that Never watched it. You didn’t like it? I refuse to watch it. It’s a horse movie. Man from What’s the No, you can take it. The man You don’t like horse movies? The Man from Snowy River, is that the show?
[00:37:35] Sara Watson: Yeah!
[00:37:36] Cameron Watson: No, don’t like that one. Heartland. Heartland. Oh my goodness.
[00:37:41] Sara Watson: You watched that, wasn’t it?
[00:37:43] Cameron Watson: Heartland, I watched because of my wife. But
horse movies,
the pacing of it is always slow. And so they, like, um, The Horse Whisperer, I remember my mom and I went to, I think we went and watched that together. So, were we married?
[00:38:01] Sara Watson: Yes. You would
[00:38:02] Cameron Watson: have come with us then, right? Did we go with my mom? Yes.
[00:38:04] Sara Watson: I believe we went to it. I don’t remember if we went with your mom.
[00:38:08] Cameron Watson: Okay, well, but your
[00:38:09] Sara Watson: mom recommended it highly.
[00:38:10] Cameron Watson: That’s what it was. Okay. So my mom rep recommended the horse whisperer with Robert Redford. Yes. I like Robert Redford. Yes.
I go and the like the six, the first six minutes, whereas just him sitting in the
[00:38:23] Rocky Rhoads: field staring at a horse and I’m like, they’re having a good conversation.
[00:38:30] Cameron Watson: And then the
[00:38:30] Rocky Rhoads: next seven hours is just
[00:38:32] Cameron Watson: horse and. Robert Redford. And I’m like, well, my daughter loves horses, Hannah loves horses. I don’t love horses. I don’t mind them.
I like to ride them. It’s fun. I like to
[00:38:46] Rocky Rhoads: put a quarter in and get on the plastic horse.
[00:38:50] Cameron Watson: That’s fun, but as far as the, it’s, it’s not a passion of mine to sit there and look at horse flesh. But I do. Nor is it a passion of mine to sit there and look at Robert Redford flesh. I don’t care about either one, right?
So do something right horses horse shows are designed to show Scenery and beauty and I get that that’s not for me. I want I agree. I want progression. I want some twists I love the little mining twisters, right? I love those things. So they’re and I love watching movies with my wife So I will watch heartland You And, uh, watch Wind Calls the Heart.
Is that the show that? How about
[00:39:28] Rocky Rhoads: War Horse? Have you seen War Horse? I have not seen War Horse.
[00:39:31] Cameron Watson: Now that’s, that
[00:39:33] Rocky Rhoads: is a little bit more, I think, up your alley. Okay, so that
[00:39:36] Cameron Watson: name makes me think that someone’s trying to trick me into watching a horse movie. I’m just saying,
[00:39:40] Rocky Rhoads: there’s some action. Okay. There’s a little bit of, yeah, there’s a horse in it.
I hate to say that, but there is a horse in it. But, it is really neat.
[00:39:50] Cameron Watson: Okay. Now the best horse movie I ever saw is War Horse. Was this horse movie where some blind lady would dive off of a platform with a horse? Yeah, I’m pretty sure she was blind. She became
[00:40:02] Sara Watson: blind in the movie.
[00:40:04] Cameron Watson: Oh, I
[00:40:04] Rocky Rhoads: was about
[00:40:04] Cameron Watson: to
[00:40:04] Rocky Rhoads: say, how’d she find the platform?
[00:40:05] Sara Watson: I’m trying to remember the name of it. Oh, the
[00:40:07] Cameron Watson: horse did. Yeah, and so the horse would come running up this platform, and see this? I enjoyed the only part of the movie I remember. The horse would run up the platform, and she could hear it coming, and she would reach out, grab onto the harness, and then they would jump off of this 20 foot platform into a pool of water.
That was a cool horse.
[00:40:27] Sara Watson: And wasn’t that based on a true story?
[00:40:29] Cameron Watson: Oh, it had to be. It has to be. Who else would have come up with a cool horse movie? Horse movies, by design, are to show scenery and beautiful things. War Horse? I bet you it’s based on a real story. It is. It’s based on a true story. It would be cool.
[00:40:47] Rocky Rhoads: Did you ever watch Lassie? Oh yeah, I did. I, I wasn’t a fan of Lassie. I wasn’t a fan either, but if it was on. I watched a couple. I would watch it. Now back, the older movies like Lassie, I’d watch the Rifleman.
[00:40:59] Cameron Watson: Oh yeah.
[00:41:00] Rocky Rhoads: I loved the Rifleman. What about Flipper? Actually I did. What was so amazing is the kid would grab this little
[00:41:08] Speaker 3: and put it in the water.
[00:41:10] Rocky Rhoads: And I was like, that’s the coolest thing. I want to do that. I want to do that. I want to go to the ocean and get this and bring in the dolphin. And probably a great white shark would eat me. And so, yeah. And so I just thought that was really cool because also the dad was a fishing game warden. I didn’t know that.
Or a ranger of some sort. I
[00:41:29] Cameron Watson: didn’t pay attention to it. Anything apparently because when you said there was a dad, I was like there was a dad. Yeah, I just remember the kid Yeah, Gilligan’s Island. You watch Gilligan’s Island? Now that is a theme song you can get behind. Right. So because you just
[00:41:44] Rocky Rhoads: you’re just want to take a seven hour tour.
That’s right. That’s all you want to do Three hours. It was a three hour. It was a three hour
[00:41:51] Sara Watson: then it ended up in seven
[00:41:52] Cameron Watson: years. A three hour tour. So the thing I love about that theme song Is anybody who has never seen the show before can start watching and it says, Hey, this group of people, they wanted to go out on a three hour tour.
The weather started getting rough. The tiny ship was tossed, but luckily there was the big blue shirt guy, the captain, skipper, skipper, skipper, and his help mate, the red shirted skinny guy hugging him. Saving everybody. Yes. Well, it, you know, it did the intros, and you know, the professor, and Marianne, right?
It did all the intro in the opening scene. That is what I loved about good opening scenes. Like, DuckTales? DuckTales. It would do an intro. Yes, the intros. You knew what it was about. Right. Jefferson’s, we just talked about that a little bit ago, they told the story of how they got there. That’s right. So that you knew the, the theme of what you’re about to watch and it would fit in.
And they don’t do themes, uh, songs anymore, except every now and again, like Psyche. Oh my goodness. Psyche has a theme song and I listen, I, when I heard them start this theme song, I was like, I’m in. because the theme song told you what the show was about. Like loved he made his
[00:43:18] Sara Watson: ringtone on his phone. My kids love that
[00:43:20] Cameron Watson: show.
I did make it my ringtone. I love that show.
[00:43:22] Rocky Rhoads: Three’s company.
[00:43:23] Cameron Watson: There you go.
[00:43:24] Rocky Rhoads: Oh, come knock on my door. Yeah, yeah. We For you. Oh, and that this show,
[00:43:31] Cameron Watson: hers and hers and his, it’s three’s companies too. Oh man. That was such a good show. Yes. Uh, and yet now I watch it and I cringe. Yeah. Like I was like, ooh. I had no idea.
I didn’t know that word. That, that,
[00:43:44] Sara Watson: and cheers. Like,
[00:43:46] Cameron Watson: oh, cheers. He tried to wa that’s another word.
[00:43:48] Sara Watson: Cheers. And mash.
[00:43:49] Cameron Watson: Mash. Oh.
[00:43:50] Sara Watson: Watched m as a kid. Now that I watch ’em now, and it’s like way different.
[00:43:55] Cameron Watson: So I, so out of the ones that you mentioned, uh, cheers. Uh, that was, uh, that was, so it was. I stopped watching it because I was gonna like, Oh, I love Cheers, you know, and then I was like, Oh, my standards have changed or I know too much.
[00:44:11] Rocky Rhoads: There you go. And so, uh, but MASH, when I started rewatching that, um, it was sprinkled in to the themes. The, but with Cheers, it was, that was like the whole point,
[00:44:25] Sara Watson: right?
[00:44:25] Cameron Watson: Was the other one you mentioned?
[00:44:29] Sara Watson: I think it was just those two.
[00:44:30] Rocky Rhoads: Okay. So, I remember, like, as, as a child, back from the 70s, come, you know, 70s, as we go, 80s, getting into the early 80s, you know, mid 80s.
Then you got the TV shows like Silver Spoons. Oh, yeah. Uh. What was the guy’s name?
[00:44:47] Cameron Watson: Man, we had
[00:44:47] Rocky Rhoads: neighborhood girls. Ricky Schroeder. Ricky Schroeder.
[00:44:49] Cameron Watson: Yeah. Boy, were the gals into him. Oh, yeah. I looked at him, and then I looked in the mirror, and I was like, What’s he got? Ah, that is, that’s not Bode well for me. , I have not for Ricky Schroeder.
[00:45:01] Rocky Rhoads: Right. So, right. And so then there was some, some interesting shows that came up back in the eighties, you know? Yes. In the eighties time. A team. A team. Oh, once again, theme song tells the story, theme, story theme. Here we go. You know, back in Vietnam there was a special group, you know, and so if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A team, you know, and that’s when, uh.
You know, uh, Mr. T. You know, who is this dude with a mohawk, got all those chains, and A pity fool! Yeah, and everyone wanted to be, hey, I want to be like Mr. T. That’s funny. I wanted
[00:45:36] Cameron Watson: to
[00:45:36] Rocky Rhoads: be
[00:45:37] Cameron Watson: Hamilton.
[00:45:38] Rocky Rhoads: Really?
[00:45:38] Cameron Watson: Oh,
[00:45:39] Rocky Rhoads: sit there and be the
[00:45:40] Cameron Watson: cool guy. Mm hmm. Yeah. Or Face. Uh, I didn’t want to be Face because he seemed stupid.
Yeah. And I was like, I already have Tendencies towards that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
[00:45:53] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah, my if my wife could probably pick out a character that I’d be the crazy guy. Oh, Murdoch, Murdoch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was fun. He was Yeah, he was the little goofy one little kind of like, you know, kind of did his own little thing.
But he was the pilot.
[00:46:10] Cameron Watson: He was he was a pilot. And so and Actually, he gave me great faith in our aviation industry because I figured if someone that crazy could land things the way that he was able, that these sober people who weren’t crazy, they could take us on planes and get us down safely just fine.
[00:46:27] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah, but then you look at how many hundreds of rounds that they’d shoot at the bad guys, but no one died.
[00:46:32] Cameron Watson: Yeah, isn’t that cool? Yeah. Like, no one
[00:46:35] Rocky Rhoads: died.
[00:46:35] Cameron Watson: That didn’t seem, you know, Cool. So, funny that you mention that part because one of the life lessons that my mom taught me was after, uh, I think it might have been Face, might have been Murdoch, but one of the actors, uh, had a blank gun and was fooling around with a blank and it had enough force of the little tinfoil stuff coming out that it killed him.
Yes. And so when my mom broke that to us, she, she was like, Hey, you know, this is, uh, that you enjoy watching on TV is now dead. Yeah. Playing with a gun. I’m going to share with you how. Yeah. And so then it made it. So I was very careful with firearms being aware. Uh, and even, you know, it took the made the lessons that you treat every firearm as if it’s a loaded always a heart.
Yeah. But then, um, also even when you think and you know, and it’s safe, you still don’t do things that are stupid. So. My mom used that tragedy, and it’s ironic that in the show they’re shooting everybody and no one dies, and yet that, that happened to one of the actors. It did. Yeah. How, when you were in movies, did you choose, like, were you able to know what the movie was before you showed
[00:47:52] Rocky Rhoads: up?
No. Uh, so, uh, one of the big movies that I was in was Starship Troopers. Yeah. And so, when we got on set, um, They kind of tell you, hey, this is the set. This is, you know, you kind of already start looking at things like, oh, this is, you know, a sci fi, something’s going on, you know, and they, they hand, you know, they, they take you into, uh, costume rooms and show you all your costumes and, and some of the stuff that you’re going to be doing.
And then you start like, this is a big production. I mean, it’s big, it’s, you know, and we’re at the Sony, uh, down, uh, in Los Angeles and, uh, And Sony was the, the major thing of it. And so I was like, this is pretty cool. I never worked on a sci fi movie before. And so they, they get you into character. You get your costume on and you know, this is crazy.
And so you’re, you’re out there with, you know, a couple of hundred other extras. And, and, you know, we’re all talking, I mean, I was on, on set for a while. At least a good two to three months, you know, and some of it was filmed in Utah and, and, but most of it was filmed in Los Angeles and just really neat how, and to find out later, not, you know, it’s a, it was a book made back in the fifties.
Oh, interesting. And so I didn’t know that. And so, and it was the first time I got to see green screen, you know, because a lot was green screened of course, you know, cause the aliens and stuff like that. Working with all these extras and everyone was, it was really neat to see how things came together.
Yeah. You know, as, as in the movies. So you,
[00:49:35] Cameron Watson: you experienced behind the scenes, you were there, you watched the production take place and then, uh, were you, uh, satisfied with the results? Was it like, Hey, that’s cool. I’m now part of that thing that was created. Right.
[00:49:49] Rocky Rhoads: And so, you know, It was really neat to see how everything progressed and how people came together as a team to, to work and to put things together.
And because for me, I only seen bits and parts, right? I wasn’t there through the whole shirt, the whole thing.
[00:50:05] Cameron Watson: Right.
[00:50:06] Rocky Rhoads: And so a lot of these people worked on these movies for years. I mean, you, you think of like Lord of the Rings. Most people were on that for ages, ages and ages and ages. I mean, and so they grew up on those programs.
[00:50:19] Cameron Watson: Oh,
[00:50:21] Rocky Rhoads: that’s fun. So
[00:50:27] Cameron Watson: So what we’ll do is we will Oh, there you go. turn this and I’ll get closer. And we’ll just swap this out and But the nice thing is if someone gets to this point, they were really interested in watching us. Right? Alright.
[00:50:46] Rocky Rhoads: I think some people have to be interested in watching us. You think some people what are interested in watching people?
Yeah, I think some
[00:50:55] Cameron Watson: people
[00:50:55] Rocky Rhoads: are. Have you ever seen this people at the mall that just sit there? Yeah, I just figured they’re on break. Yeah, no, they like watching people. Really? Yeah.
[00:51:03] Speaker 3: They’re people
[00:51:04] Rocky Rhoads: watchers. People, people watchers. Let’s do this.
[00:51:07] Speaker 3: Okay.
[00:51:10] Cameron Watson: They’re people watchers. And if you need to tilt it up, go for it.
[00:51:13] Speaker: Okay.
[00:51:14] Cameron Watson: See, you got your own camera person. Yeah, isn’t that cool? It’s nice. You know, she does a lot. She, she does, um, she handles the catering. She takes care of the
[00:51:26] Sara Watson: catering. I plan all the weddings. Yeah,
[00:51:30] Cameron Watson: she does plan
[00:51:31] Rocky Rhoads: all the weddings. Yeah. So, but, uh, being in, you know, I was in a couple, couple films, a couple of the TV shows.
Uh, I don’t know if you ever heard of Bay Watch.
[00:51:42] Speaker: Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:51:43] Rocky Rhoads: So, I remember a friend of mine, he wanted to be in movies. And so he asked me to go to Hollywood with him to go get a, uh, or go talk to some people about how to get into the movies. And so there was, of course, you know, Hollywood, you know, you try to find an agent or something like that.
So he found this casting call company. And so I told him I’d go with him on the, no, no. And so I went with him and I walked in with him and he’s talking to these people. I’m just sitting there and the guy looks at me and says, Are you here to, to, you know, do the same? And I said, Oh, no, no, no. I said, I don’t want none of ya.
And so these were back in, this was 90, you know, and so we surfed. We’re skaters and surfers. And, and so my hair was really a little bit different. Well, not as white. Yeah, that’s great. I can imagine though that if that was the
[00:52:42] Cameron Watson: culture and the life that you were living, you were probably just perfect, perfect, you know, perfect
[00:52:46] Rocky Rhoads: tan, you know, perfect.
Yeah, right. And so, and he says, well, do you want a job too? He says, it pays this much money per day. Uh, you know, you’ll be working, um, on a TV show and I’m like, yeah, I don’t know. One of my favorite Chris is all dude, this, please this hang, hang out with us and let’s do it. That’s okay. Fine. So, they gave us, uh, some paperwork, we had to sign and all this, and I said, Well, where is the job?
And they said, Well, it’s at Venice Beach. Early morning. You have to be there at like 6am before, you know, Venice Beach becomes populated. So we get down there, and so, uh, we were told to wear, uh, our surfing stuff, skating stuff, bring, you know, some stuff. And, uh, so we started You know, mingling with other people and understand what we had to do and all this.
And, you know, it’s, it’s pay watch. It’s like, wow, this is pretty cool. You know? And so then you start seeing the actors come out, right? No, David Hasselhoff. You can’t miss him. You might have an inch on him. I don’t know. He’s pretty tall cat. And so, and so they grabbed me, you know, Hey, you know how to skate?
I’m like, yeah, I can skate. They’re all, we need you to go down this hall and, uh, David Hasselhoff is gonna kind of push you off your skateboard a little bit He’s gonna be chasing these bad guys and I’m like really I’m gonna get hit by David Hasselhoff. That’s pretty cool. That’s pretty cool Yeah, that’s pretty cool.
And so I said, okay and so Early morning here. I am skate shorts to skateboard ready to go and here’s these cameras and Freeze and I’m like, wow, there’s like a lot of cameras looking at you. And so I’m like They’re all okay and action. And I’m like, what you want me to do? What, you know? And so, and so two, two of the mishaps was on me because I didn’t know I was supposed to do anything, but, uh, after I got the hang of it and, um, Mr.
Hasselhoff is a cool cat. Yeah, really cool cat. And so we did our scene, we broke, they went to another location or did something else and, uh, I remember it was lunchtime. And so me and my friend Chris were sitting there, and there’s these trucks, you know, that you can go get food off of. So we got up, went to go get some food.
[00:55:13] Cameron Watson: Yeah.
[00:55:13] Rocky Rhoads: And I didn’t pay attention who was behind me. And, and I kind of glanced, and it was Pamela Anderson.
[00:55:20] Cameron Watson: Oh, okay.
[00:55:21] Rocky Rhoads: And I’m like, oh my gosh, that’s Pamela Anderson. You know, as, as a teenager, or as a young man, I was like, uh oh. You know, what do we do? You know, and so I said, excuse me. I said, would you like to Go in front of us, you know, because she’s she’s a movie star, you know And she oh no.
No, you you were here first. No, you were here first and um She says well, excuse me. She’s I do have questions. She’s do you mind watching my dog? She had this little dog on a leash and she’s I gotta run back to go get something and i’m like holding pamela anderson’s dog How many people can say that You got to watch Pamela Anderson’s stuff.
Okay, it was five seconds, but in my mind
And so nice people though, I mean the nicest crew David Hasselhoff played Football with us for a little bit through the ball around this really really neat But, um, there was a couple of cool shows I was in, um, just as an actor, you know. Now I want to go back and become a movie star, but, uh, I don’t know.
Agents keep calling me, and I just, um. Just won’t meet your requirements. Right, right, right. And so, I mean, how many other rocky roads do you know? Um, none. Carry the one. Yeah, right. None. Yeah. So, uh. Another cool one that I was in that I didn’t really think too much of it, but did you ever get to watch? Like it’s it’s a character and I’m trying to think of the name.
It’s a dwarf plays golf You ever seen in those old my word dwarf plays golf never and so it’s Tim Conway Oh, and so
[00:57:19] Sara Watson: kidding. Yes, I’m Tim Conway.
[00:57:21] Rocky Rhoads: And so You He makes these videos of him being about this tall playing golf and, and it’s just, it’s really funny. And so he, he did, he did one called Dwarf Plays Baseball.
And so I got a call to be in that as a baseball player and a fan and stuff like that and that was pretty cool. And so there was a lot of neat opportunities to be in these shows and to learn actually how, And that’s what I was thinking. I wanted to learn how production works, how all this, you know, comes together.
And, cause I’ve always been, you know, related to TV. I love TV shows. You know, I get to be a little bit a part of them back in the, you know, the 90s. Um, the X Files. Do you like the X Files?
[00:58:10] Speaker: Skully
[00:58:12] Rocky Rhoads: and, uh, what’s that? Yeah. I don’t, I,
[00:58:14] Cameron Watson: uh, David? Was it David? David? David is so funny. Yeah, yeah.
[00:58:18] Speaker 5: Well, his bats is real, maybe.
My problem with
[00:58:21] Cameron Watson: X Files
[00:58:21] Rocky Rhoads: is it didn’t have a good theme song. It didn’t. Spooky. Spooky, yeah. So I was in the movie. What? Yeah, so I was in the movie.
[00:58:32] Cameron Watson: Okay. Was there a movie before the TV show? Because I thought the movie came in after the TV show and that would have aged you out. I would have thought. Yeah.
So this, this was, uh, Cause you and Ginny have been
[00:58:44] Rocky Rhoads: married for ages. Yeah. I think dirt just got embedded. So,
um,
[00:58:51] Cameron Watson: how many years?
[00:58:52] Jenny Rhoads: Since 98. Oh, since 98. So
[00:58:54] Cameron Watson: we’re coming up to 27?
[00:58:58] Rocky Rhoads: 27. 27. I can’t count that far, but uh, so I was in the movie and there was a scene of a young man that fell in a hole and I was one of the people running to the hole.
So once again, to ruin production, or that scene, me. So I didn’t know I was supposed to take my sunglasses off because the reflection shows the cameras. And I’m the type of guy who would’ve been like,
[00:59:23] Cameron Watson: huh, bitch, I could see that. Let’s freeze it. Zoom in. Yeah. And see. Yeah. Ah, I can see. So that was, that was me
[00:59:30] Rocky Rhoads: And so, but yeah. So yeah, it was, it’s a good opportunity to, you know, and there’s so many things that come on in production. Yeah. You know, in, in movie business and stuff like that. And then, uh, a friend of mine, um, he asked me, and I didn’t know this, but he was a. He wanted to be a camera guy, but he worked in lighting.
He was what we call a grip. Yeah. And so he asked me to come to work with him one day, uh, down at some studios and I really enjoyed it. So then I became a grip for a while and understand lighting and all the, uh, stages and all that stuff. So that was, that was kind of cool. And I think that’s where my thing of watching TV shows and stuff like that come from, you know, to really enjoy it.
Yeah. Cause you, you probably appreciate the work that went into something you enjoyed. A lot of work, a lot of, a lot of work, a lot of. And so I’ve always wanted to be in something that was like Mission Impossible, I think that would be cool. That is cool. Did you ever watch the whole Mission Impossible?
The old
[01:00:33] Cameron Watson: ones? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. In fact, I re watched them as an adult and it did not age out. I know. So, Sarah, uh, she knows that I, yeah, I Oh, Tom Cruise? You’re a Tom Cruise kind of guy? No, no, I, I was, uh, Tom Cruise is great. Yeah. The fact that he does his own stunts, he’s like Jackie Chan in that way, and I appreciate that.
But no, Sarah, uh, she’ll catch me watching, like recently I started watching The Bionic Woman again. So, uh, Million Dollar Man Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:01:06] Rocky Rhoads: What? Did you see the episode where he
[01:01:08] Cameron Watson: What is wrong with The Bionic Woman? I,
[01:01:11] Rocky Rhoads: I, I didn’t say anything. Okay. It’s, I really like
[01:01:15] Cameron Watson: Wonder Woman spin from Oh,
[01:01:16] Speaker 5: wonder Woman was good.
Yeah. Yeah. Wonder Woman.
[01:01:21] Cameron Watson: I, I, I You didn’t watch
[01:01:22] Speaker 5: that one. Did your mom not let you?
[01:01:24] Cameron Watson: Uh, she, I watched it at my grandparents’ house one summer. Uh, was not, uh, was, was, it was not, uh, normalized in my home. . Yeah. Yeah. She needs to be more covered. Covered, yeah.
Looking back,
it’s like, wow. The I Dream of Jeannie
[01:01:42] Rocky Rhoads: was far worse than Wonder Woman.
Oh, I love Jeannie, yeah. Well, that was back in the day, because they showed her belly. Yes, but not her navel. No, you can’t show the navel. That’s right. And so, it was the upper Now we’re
[01:01:56] Sara Watson: like wishing that was still the case.
[01:01:58] Rocky Rhoads: Yeah, yeah.
[01:02:02] Sara Watson: I’m just saying, on TV, you see a lot more body parts than you used to. Yeah. I see. That’s what I see.
[01:02:08] Cameron Watson: Yeah.
[01:02:09] Rocky Rhoads: Unfortunately. Yeah,
[01:02:10] Cameron Watson: you do. But. Yeah. Well, Rocky, this has been very fun. Yes. We need to do it again. Let’s do it. Okay. And, um, so if you, just one final question, just to, like, if you were, now that your kids, you have all your kids married except one.
Just one. And, uh, she is a very beautiful young woman. Thank you. And I can see that, uh, she would be attracting, um, The widest range of young men from not yet. Really? No, no, I don’t want her to. Well, yes, your desires. Yeah, might not have anything to do with that. I know. Yeah, but so if you if you could have one say in the type of young man that your daughter would attract, what type would you hope that she would be, you know, get on the hook and reel in?
Down the road someday down the road when it’s when you’re oh,
[01:03:09] Rocky Rhoads: I would say Well, there’s a couple words. Okay humble humble. I want the person to be humble Have integrity And so those words kind of go over quite a bit, yeah, you know and so um We were talking about this at work this other day about kids.
Who do you want your kids to you know? And because a lot of people say what’s the saying at all I want you to marry someone like your father. Or I want you to marry someone like your mother. You know, so, I don’t know where that came about. You know, is it true? I don’t know. I don’t think I’m like my wife’s dad.
I don’t think so. I mean, he was a pretty smart guy. I know I am not like my wife’s dad. Yeah, so, you know, and Hi, Steve.
[01:03:57] Jenny Rhoads: Both wonderful.
[01:03:59] Rocky Rhoads: Both wonderful people. I just, I, I’m not, I can’t, there’s no way I can out due to my father in law, Stan, that, you know, he was an incredible man, you know, but I, I, we always want the best for our daughters, our children.
We always want the best. That’s right. And so I just hope the best happens. So you
[01:04:18] Cameron Watson: chose integrity, uh, which some people can simplify that down to honesty, but integrity actually has, that’s a, it’s a big, it’s a big umbrella, big umbrella. Right. And then you said humility. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say that’s an attribute they want their kids to pursue.
[01:04:37] Rocky Rhoads: So, I want someone, if they mess up, they know they messed up. And be able to admit that they, yeah. That is a good quality. Yeah, yeah. So, um, as we do, do we do that as, You know, adults, sometimes yes, sometimes no. So, um. It is
[01:04:56] Cameron Watson: helpful though, having a helpmate who is willing to gently nudge and sometimes stab to remind you.
Yes. Oh,
[01:05:02] Rocky Rhoads: yeah, yeah. I’ve got wounds. You’ve messed up. I’ve got scars. Yeah. No, um. It is nice. Yeah. You know, and yeah. Well, thank you, Rocky. Hey, thank you. I appreciate you having me. Yeah.